@xkeltoix And by the way, idiot. Noam Chomsky is not a good source of anything. This is the same loony toon who was utterly wrong about the Khmer Rouge and the NVA at the end of Vietname War.
@xkeltoix I’ve actually read the Communist Manifesto. Obviously you haven’t. Clearly you haven’t.
Clearly your education is lacking. Clearly you need to learn about life, about economics, and about how logistics works. Communists never understand any of these things.
@xkeltoix Nonsense. Abject nonsense. It is clear you don’t know anything you’re talking about. Communism is murder. In order to keep people in it’s clutches, in every case it’s been tried, people have to be forced to stay in it and must be forced to distribute the product of their labor. Property is naturally coercive? Nothing but the product of the state? More nonsense. Clearly you understand nothing. You’re a hack.
@xkeltoix I have applied logic. Look all around you. From the computer that you’re typing on to the toilet you use every day, the free market did it all. LIFE IS MY SOURCE. The evidence is everywhere you look. And if you go outside this nation to places where the market has not been allowed to develop, especially communist nations, you see poverty, squalor, and misery. That is a fact.
@ThePenWolf You havent even tried to apply logic, so how could you be a teacher? A teacher at least realizes the importance of sourced material. You on the other hand rail against people for citations. Granted its wikipedia, but even THEY have sources.
Im not bitter, youre the one whose angry. not me. Im a very happy person.
@ThePenWolf Ad Hominem fallacy. Good job. This is probably why you believe in capitalism, because you cant understand logic.
Who said anything about totalitarianism? Communism is the only form of freedom. Property is naturally coercive and nothing but the product of the state, which you probably admit is coercive by nature.
Free markets have done very very little to help anyone. Regulations/Unions are the reason for our standards of living
@xkeltoix It’s at this point I’m done with you. Arguing with you would be pointless; like a teacher arguing with a teenager who thinks he knows everything. Learn to think critically, child. And don’t be so bitter.
@xkeltoix Knowledge of the moon? We already knew everything we wanted to know about the moon before we landed there. If we wanted to know more, unmanned missions would’ve told us what we wanted. The moon landings gave us no value on investment. Learn to think critically; you’ll do better in debates.
@xkeltoix Don’t kid yourself, kid. Putin is still a communist, and notice that his nation is still not achieving much more than when the “Soviets” were in power. Learn to think critically.
@xkeltoix I just know more than you. You are a hack. It is the most efficient economic system ever devised, far better than anything the totalitarian regimes have ever come up with in history. You would be better off if you accept the fact that freedom works, and free markets works, and stop griping that some people succeed wheras others fail, and you’ll live to be a happier person. Look about you, son, capitalism works. And works extremely well.
@ThePenWolf you need to take a long deep look at reality and realize capitalism is by far the least efficient economic system. your own life would be better off and less coercive without the manufactured consent that is put in front of you.
i find it hilarious that you rail against me for using sources. not all of us try to make up bullshit in our heads, penwolf.
@xkeltoix The Moon Landing? Idiot! The Moon Landings were one of the biggest boondoggles in American History; a complete waste of government money. They’re the most beloved wastes of money, but they’re wastes of money because we got not return on investment. Nothing but six flags on the moon and some rocks. The whole space race was contrived; the Soviets were not more tech advanced as we were. Not by a long shot. They’re still lagging far behind us. That was a bad example, kid.
@ThePenWolf the government funded so much of what we use everyday. The market has some major catching up to do. you should read the communist manifesto. If you did, you would be very embarrased of yourself if you said communism has been tried. communism requires that all world governments be destroyed.
The government produces a lot, throughout the world. GPS systems, everything NASA does. lol the internet started with the military. not to mention most e-business recieves government funding.
@xkeltoix Bullshit. This is absolute bullshit/ Clear indication that not only do you have no critical thinking skills, but you are absolutely ignorant of the facts.
Christ if I had a nickel from every commie who said that “true communism” has never been tried, I’d never have to work. Give it up, morons. In order for communism to work the way you think it ought to work, people have to be subdued and controlled lest any one of them achieves a bit more success and reaps the benefit. If someone wants to leave that commune and succeed without having to be forced not to and give what he makes to the state, the state would have to keep him prisoner.
@xkeltoix No discernable evidence? The evidence is all around you! You have yet to demonstrate any critical thinking on your own. You have to go to Wikipedia to do your thinking for you. If you think government is better than the market, why don’t you go to places where a complete command economy is in operation, like, Cuba. See for yourself.
@xkeltoix Complete utter bullshit. This demonstrates you know NOTHING about reality, or the history thereof. Give it up. Marx was a jealous, bitter old man who was a crack-pot. It’s people like you who keep believing that communism hasn’t really been tried yet when there have been dozens of examples of how it has been tried, it’s just that they have to resort to tyranny to keep the society they have tried to micromanage “class’ess.” Grow up, son, and stop being a clinger.
@xkeltoix Not one of those things couldn’t have been done without the free market. Do you think government produces anything? If you do, I got bridges to sell you in New York. They produce nothing. The government is just a customer, a consumer, nothing more.
The Internet was a free market development. Computers, a free market development. If we let the government handle anything the internet would only be useful to UCLA and DARPA.
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@ThePenWolf communism hasnt killed a single person,because communism hasnt existed
@ThePenWolf chomsky is a good source of many things, however milton friedman was the source
Communism is pretty good at one thing. It is quite efficient at murder.
@xkeltoix And by the way, idiot. Noam Chomsky is not a good source of anything. This is the same loony toon who was utterly wrong about the Khmer Rouge and the NVA at the end of Vietname War.
@xkeltoix I’ve actually read the Communist Manifesto. Obviously you haven’t. Clearly you haven’t.
Clearly your education is lacking. Clearly you need to learn about life, about economics, and about how logistics works. Communists never understand any of these things.
@xkeltoix Nonsense. Abject nonsense. It is clear you don’t know anything you’re talking about. Communism is murder. In order to keep people in it’s clutches, in every case it’s been tried, people have to be forced to stay in it and must be forced to distribute the product of their labor. Property is naturally coercive? Nothing but the product of the state? More nonsense. Clearly you understand nothing. You’re a hack.
@xkeltoix I have applied logic. Look all around you. From the computer that you’re typing on to the toilet you use every day, the free market did it all. LIFE IS MY SOURCE. The evidence is everywhere you look. And if you go outside this nation to places where the market has not been allowed to develop, especially communist nations, you see poverty, squalor, and misery. That is a fact.
Critical thinking, son. Critical thinking.
So it’s only for the betterment of us all if there’s a collective decision?
Do you even know what a logical fallacy is?
@ThePenWolf You havent even tried to apply logic, so how could you be a teacher? A teacher at least realizes the importance of sourced material. You on the other hand rail against people for citations. Granted its wikipedia, but even THEY have sources.
Im not bitter, youre the one whose angry. not me. Im a very happy person.
@ThePenWolf Putin may have been a communist, but that doesnt mean anything.
Its like if Ron Paul went and became president and pushed communism, but we all called it capitalism because he personally is a capitalist.
Seriously dude, read a book.
@ThePenWolf Ad Hominem fallacy. Good job. This is probably why you believe in capitalism, because you cant understand logic.
Who said anything about totalitarianism? Communism is the only form of freedom. Property is naturally coercive and nothing but the product of the state, which you probably admit is coercive by nature.
Free markets have done very very little to help anyone. Regulations/Unions are the reason for our standards of living
@xkeltoix It’s at this point I’m done with you. Arguing with you would be pointless; like a teacher arguing with a teenager who thinks he knows everything. Learn to think critically, child. And don’t be so bitter.
@xkeltoix Knowledge of the moon? We already knew everything we wanted to know about the moon before we landed there. If we wanted to know more, unmanned missions would’ve told us what we wanted. The moon landings gave us no value on investment. Learn to think critically; you’ll do better in debates.
@xkeltoix Don’t kid yourself, kid. Putin is still a communist, and notice that his nation is still not achieving much more than when the “Soviets” were in power. Learn to think critically.
@xkeltoix I just know more than you. You are a hack. It is the most efficient economic system ever devised, far better than anything the totalitarian regimes have ever come up with in history. You would be better off if you accept the fact that freedom works, and free markets works, and stop griping that some people succeed wheras others fail, and you’ll live to be a happier person. Look about you, son, capitalism works. And works extremely well.
@ThePenWolf “still lagging behingd us”? lol the soviets dont exist anymore, “kid”.
@ThePenWolf the moon landing brought us knowledge of the moon, which has value.
stop being so emotional, maybe then youll see reality for what it is.
@ThePenWolf you need to take a long deep look at reality and realize capitalism is by far the least efficient economic system. your own life would be better off and less coercive without the manufactured consent that is put in front of you.
i find it hilarious that you rail against me for using sources. not all of us try to make up bullshit in our heads, penwolf.
@xkeltoix The Moon Landing? Idiot! The Moon Landings were one of the biggest boondoggles in American History; a complete waste of government money. They’re the most beloved wastes of money, but they’re wastes of money because we got not return on investment. Nothing but six flags on the moon and some rocks. The whole space race was contrived; the Soviets were not more tech advanced as we were. Not by a long shot. They’re still lagging far behind us. That was a bad example, kid.
@ThePenWolf the government funded so much of what we use everyday. The market has some major catching up to do. you should read the communist manifesto. If you did, you would be very embarrased of yourself if you said communism has been tried. communism requires that all world governments be destroyed.
The government produces a lot, throughout the world. GPS systems, everything NASA does. lol the internet started with the military. not to mention most e-business recieves government funding.
@xkeltoix Bullshit. This is absolute bullshit/ Clear indication that not only do you have no critical thinking skills, but you are absolutely ignorant of the facts.
Christ if I had a nickel from every commie who said that “true communism” has never been tried, I’d never have to work. Give it up, morons. In order for communism to work the way you think it ought to work, people have to be subdued and controlled lest any one of them achieves a bit more success and reaps the benefit. If someone wants to leave that commune and succeed without having to be forced not to and give what he makes to the state, the state would have to keep him prisoner.
@xkeltoix No discernable evidence? The evidence is all around you! You have yet to demonstrate any critical thinking on your own. You have to go to Wikipedia to do your thinking for you. If you think government is better than the market, why don’t you go to places where a complete command economy is in operation, like, Cuba. See for yourself.
@xkeltoix Complete utter bullshit. This demonstrates you know NOTHING about reality, or the history thereof. Give it up. Marx was a jealous, bitter old man who was a crack-pot. It’s people like you who keep believing that communism hasn’t really been tried yet when there have been dozens of examples of how it has been tried, it’s just that they have to resort to tyranny to keep the society they have tried to micromanage “class’ess.” Grow up, son, and stop being a clinger.
@xkeltoix Not one of those things couldn’t have been done without the free market. Do you think government produces anything? If you do, I got bridges to sell you in New York. They produce nothing. The government is just a customer, a consumer, nothing more.
The Internet was a free market development. Computers, a free market development. If we let the government handle anything the internet would only be useful to UCLA and DARPA.